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Wonder if this is true?

Wonder if this is true?

Postby divemaster » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:01 pm

I got the below in an email, I never really thought about it, but I bet they do transport those buses by plane and not the plane obama is in.

This 3-day bus tour is being touted as The Magical Mystery Tour, or The "STIMUBUS"..........bought and paid for by the American taxpayer.

He FLIES into an airport somewhere in the midwest, hops into a brand new 1.1 Million $ bus, paid for by you and I, for a “bus tour” ‘around the midwest’, and after an hour or so, gets driven back to the airport for ANOTHER FLIGHT, lands at another airport where another $1.1 Million brand new black bus is waiting for him… and repeats all that until his midwest bus‘tour’ is done?? Oh yes.......and THEN he leaves on a 12 day vacation to Martha's Vineyard .......to REST UP from this bus tour! (Of course, lest you think that he is using taxpayer money to campaign for re-election, the White House assures us that this was not a campaign tour but simply an effort by the President to reassure the American people. Isn't it strange that the only people who need "reassurance" live in swing states that Obama must carry if he is to be re-elected?)



And don't forget........those brand new shiny black buses aren’t DRIVEN to the location where they meet Obama. Those buses are loaded up on one or more C-17s. Then, they are flown to the destination ahead of AirForce-1.
AND!.......this is REPEATED FOR EVERY CAMPAIGN STOP.

On this 'bus tour', the Prez will lecture the 'little people' on how they need to live within their means and cut-back! Remember when very recently Obama told that family man to GO BUY A HYBRID VAN when he said he couldn’t afford to fill up his truck????

Obama's 'carbon footprint' must be as large as most cities by now.

All of this on the taxpayer's dime.....


P.S. Diane Sawyer reported that these buses were purchased in CANADA and then modified in the U.S.!
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Re: Wonder if this is true?

Postby CommonSense » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:17 am

The email is TRUE, but out of context.

However in fairness to President Obama, the new buses were ordered by the Secret Service. These were not intended specifically for President Obama or Democrats, indeed there is a second identical bus for the nominee from the Republican party. As political candidates continue to charter campaign buses to tour the States, the Secret Service recognized that these vehicles were large, slow moving, unarmored targets. Security concerns prompted the Secret Service to order these specialized armored buses to protect the candidates as they made campaign tours. I'm not sure given the weight and size of these buses, whether they can be flown around inside military aircraft. My guess is that they are driven to the location by the Secret Service and pick-up the President or candidate before the bus tour begins. I also think these buses will get only limited use, as the President and candidates have access to other armored Secret Service vehicles.

It is true that the buses were made in Canada, however the GSA purchase was made with a company in Tennessee. And neither the company or the Secret Service will disclose what security modifications were made to the buses. Much less where the work was done, and who did the work. They certainly didn't come out of Canadian factory customized to the specifications of the Secret Service.

President Obama can be questioned about his travel and expenses, but these buses really belong to the Secret Service and they made the security decisions and arrangements.
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Re: Wonder if this is true?

Postby divemaster » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:17 am

You think that they went all this time without such a bus and now they need one. Wonder if the threats have escalated with obama. Bigger is not always better, I believe it just a dog and pony show.
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Re: Wonder if this is true?

Postby CommonSense » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:35 am

The Secret Service has the responsibility to "protect" both political parties Presidential nominees on the campaign trail. These bus tours are fairly common in American politics. With all the increased threats and security, it makes sense for the Secret Service to provide more secured armored buses.

I think it's safe to assume that threats against President Obama have increased, since he took office. However it's not the known threats, but the unknown which the Secret Service must protect against. Standard buses provided little or no protection in this increased threat environment, and are a slow moving target.

I'm not "happy" with the costs billed to the taxpayers by the Secret Service to protect government officials and/or political candidates. But the reality is these expenses are required to protect the political establishment and government.

President Obama has done plenty of things he deserves to be questioned about, the Secret Service and it's security protocols just aren't one of them. I haven't seen any evidence that the Obama Administration directed the Secret Service to purchase these buses or any specific vehicles for President Obama. Nor have I seen any evidence the Secret Service or it's security services are motivated by political influences, rather than it's protection obligations.
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Re: Wonder if this is true?

Postby laughing66607 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:10 am

Sure it is true divey, lol

Vote for Michelle, she will stop that shit, lol.
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Re: Wonder if this is true?

Postby CommonSense » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:03 am

This was a Secret Service purchase in order too protect candidates who may campaign on a bus tour. I really don't they will be used very long or travel very far, before the candidate switches to another faster method of travel.
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